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Chris Tarnovsky 41 years old.Many American Football players make millions a year why should he services go for less?
Kudelski card hacker at Black Hat conference in Amsterdam..
PAID ACCESS SYSTEMS. A key witness in the court case opposing the Swiss group Kudelski against the media giant News Corporation was passing by in Amsterdam, attending a conference on computer piracy. We met him.
The audience is glued to the lips of Christopher Tarnovsky. In front of a podium of hackers and security specialists - with an average age of 25 - the self-taught electronics specialist revealed the techniques that allow him to break open chip cards that block access to pay TV chains in the whole world.
The scene takes place in the Mövenpick hotel in Amsterdam, where the European edition of the Black Hat conference was held Thursday and Friday last week. This is one of the prime professional meetings dedicated to computer piracy. Among the twenty or so speakers invited to this big get-together, Christoper Tarnovsky talked for more than one and a half hour in the "Lausanne" room - a sign of destiny (Tr. note: Lausanne is a Swiss city close to the headquarters of the Kudelski Group).
Employed by ***
The American 39-year-old is accused of having been recruited by the Israeli company ***, a competitor of Kudeslki, for breaking and publish on the Internet the safety codes of Canal Plus in 1999 and then repeating the operation at the expense of the group Vaud and its customers. The dissemination of codes had enabled hundreds of thousands of pirates access to encrypted programs without paying subscription.
The American Echostar satellite platform, which uses maps to protect its contents, said she had lost hundreds of millions of dollars due to piracy and called for a billion dollars in compensation from ***, a subsidiary of media group News Corp.
During the month of April, Christopher Tarnovsky testify in a court in California to defend ***, which has employed for ten years, since 1997. According to him, Kudelski and Echostar have invented from scratch, the plot of which they claim to be victims to mask the weakness of their encryption system.
In his eyes, the case against *** is nothing short of an extortion attempt. "Sure, I've broken the cards of Kudelski", he annoyedly states. "I was paid by *** to do it. This is an activity that all companies in the trade do. But why would I have published these codes on the Net for free? I am not stupid, and I never had the intention of taking that risk."
Tarnovsky no longer works for the group over the past year. He launched his independent company, Flylogic, through which it puts its know-how available to consumer electronics manufacturers to test the strength of their products face of the onslaught of pirates before they are put on the market.
Christopher Tarnovsky detailing the fragility of the system based on these chips designed by a handful of companies, like Motorola ( MOT ) and Infinenon, which are used in products as diverse as remote garage, alarm systems and car TV decoders.
Unbreakable? Wrong!
Manufacturers of semiconductors claim that their chips are inviolable. Companies that integrate them into their products rely on the specifications provided to them. They think that their secrets will be well guarded. That is not true, of course. "
Christopher Tarnovski uses HydroBromic acid to eat away at the passivation layers and doping guns to cut/add traces to a working IC. And to submit photos of his laboratory, fitted with equipment he used for a few thousand dollars. At the center, a powerful Zeiss microscope to enter the heart of the chip which are hidden the precious codes. The successive layers of silicon are revealed with acids and lasers. The engineer then explained how he took control of the map by bypassing its protections with long microscopic needles. Within minutes for the weakest, a few hours for the best-designed, the contents of the card opens 9 times out of 10 these assaults.
Upon questions, a voice is raised in the back of the room. An engineer from Microsoft expressed concern: "Have you looked at our processor game console Xbox360? I have been offered 100000 dollars for the break, Tarnovsky said. But I replied that it was not enough. "
It has not invested enough
At the turn of a journalist Estonian. Son pays, . His country, a precursor of cyberdemocracy, introduced in 2001 an identity card chip, which can be used for banking transactions like online voting. This is a Motorola, sniffs Tarnovsky. A former model, poorly secured.
And Kudelski cards? In short embarrassed silence before flies his responce, "Sorry for them: the last two generations have been broken. The next will be also. They have not invested enough in research over the past decade. Today, Kudelski has more money, see the share price. They hope to rebuild with the trial, but they will lose. "
In fact the guy who hacked Directv and Nagra previously, also agrees with these findings..Satellite TV hacker Christopher Tarnovsky ,,,,
Since *** fired him he's been consulting for two semiconductor companies and a manufacturer of dongle tokens, but he misses his life in electronic warfare. If *** doesn't want him, he says he'd be happy to work for Nagrastar -- jumping sides once again.
"I could design a whole entire chip for them like I did for ***," he says. "*** thinks today that their technology is superior to everybody else's and it probably is, because they're 17 years ahead of Nagra technologically. But Nagra could catch up overnight if they used my services"..
Chris Tarnovsky came out in November last year right out and stated he could hack Nagra 3 within weeks..
"a lényeg ismét a végén"
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keresek olyan beltérit ami oszt upc-t skystarra, és lehetőleg dvb-s2 szabványú!
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feltöltve csak a crack.
kicsomagolod, beállítod a crackcfg-vel az időt lehetőleg ne 2010-t írj, majd pedig datecrk-el elindítod.
vb runtime szügséges hozzá ha jól tudom. google majd segít neked 
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hbo-s csatikon hallok egy brutális reccsenést az ajánlók közt valahol. ezt tapasztalta már valaki vagy nálam van a gond?
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2010-10-17 19:04:23 |
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jobb lesz visszarakjátok a betát és ráküldtök egy időmanipulátor progit
konkrétan nálam a datecrack üzemel. azóta nem kinlódok az újakkal, alaposan lekódolták. nem sikerült még a crackereknek sem feltörni 100%-an...
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jobb lesz ha beszereztek egy ilyen beltérit, mert ez úgy látom bulsatot simán viszi. de akkor nektek miért nem???
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sajnálom de nálam megy pedig, megosztanám a kulcsot, kézzel meg nem írom le. najmsaton mindjárt fent leszz...
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mp. megnézem nálam mi a helyzet
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lehet hülyekérdés: ha a számítógépen akarom nézni a upc-t, de van beltérim amin van newcamd, akkor ott klienstként kell futtatni vagy serverként?
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11823 H 27500 3/4 ez az akkor?
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hát a dance.tv még mindig üzemel, bár egyet nem lelek az eurobirden 9°keleten a c-musicot lehet kódolt lett most már? checkoljátok már le. thx
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valahol olvastam vannak kódolatlan napok is, magyarán nem kell decryptelni, offline groupok levédték CODE taggal, remélem ez is törhető lesz egyhamar
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ahh megvan 06-s key ment de már down azokkal a tipusokkal is
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najmsaton megjelent egy írás a canal digitaallal kapcsolatban, valaki tudná értelmezni?
"For Iota KAPPA LUMBDA THETA MU Only"
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nálam pár mtv ment még tegnap az astráról (19.2k), most nem tudom hogy megy
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ismerősnek van egy optibox prima fta-s beltéri, na ugyebár vannak ezek a smartkártyaolvasó rendszerek amik usb-sek, ha rákötöm az usb-re tudja-e olvasni a kártyát?ha igen osztható is?
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hátha jelzitek mindenképp, nem mindig nézek rá
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az utóbbi bukta mert ratyi routerem van.
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ti mit néztek, nálam megy simán ferguson arivával dél körül még nem ment, most megy.
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egy kis csemege
N3 compromise.... understanding it in context
I am more than a bit shocked at the nay-sayers in here.
Many of you don't have an inkling of technical background but on you go about "show me the money" and "not real till I see it"...etc.... I am not bashing anyone here... but take a deep breath my good FTA friends.
Ok so let me, with a technical background try explain in more basic terms what Christopher Tarnovsky has done and why it's significant. It's been well understood that N3's code keys where buried deep in the Infineon chip, designed to be very very hard to penetrate and read. Without boring you all on the implications, he had to use an electron mircoscope to read past a meshed layer of protection that if broken basically destroys the chip. The point is he has done it...he has read the chip and the N3 "secrets". N2 was "broken" because the code keys last time were leaked for money. This time it's just a good clean hack...period. Even the chip maker admitted they are compromised on a chip they claimed could not be hacked.....recall I have said this many times in here...EVERYTHING is hackable.
What happens next is anyone's guess. We have changes in the legal status of things that make it hard for ANYONE to stand up and say they have the keys. We know that it was a costly process for him to hack the chip...questions is what value does he put on it? Who knows... it's not illegal to do what he has done. There is NO international or US laws that forbids you from reading a chip with protection on it. But there are plenty that will hammer you for what you do with that information. So if he is "selling it" or giving it away.... this will drive timing. But sooner or later, the FTA STB makers will have their hands on his decode.
Something else not in the dialog stream here. N3 is NOT like N2 with basically fixed code keys and a pattern to their rolling sequence. Part of the N3 magic by its creators is that it uses an encrypted rolling series of code keys that are sync'd to data in the new chip. SO a standalone BIN may no longer do the job unless it imitates that functionality. MEANING it's not just a BIN anymore but an executable program. That could be a real issue for all our STBS. In order for them to duplicate what is needed, it means doing what the N3 chipped card does without the card and its processing abilities being present. Confused? It means our boxes may need more processing and memory onboard to take on that functionality and today they may not have enough....meaning NEW STBs for the lot of us as one possible implication. At a minimum, we'd all need new firmware
in our STBs....(new operating code...not BIN files) that will allow for this process of encryption referenced rotating keys to function.
So if you are still following me.... it's clear the data needed to understand N3 is no longer protected. This is now fact...not fiction. And we don't know who has that data beyond Tarnovsky. But a new bin file isn't likely to be the end fix. "Coders" as people like to call them in here... are not the secret technology monks people make them out to be....the STB makers are the coders...and until they 1) have the N3 compromise in hand 2) understand how that impacts the physical way it's then implemented and 3) figure how to then mass distribute the "fix" be it a new box or operating codes....etc without legal issues.....THEN you get something to TEST.
OK.... does that get people's view in the correct frame of reference?
It means...be patient .... it's not an overnight event and you can EXPECT some degree of format change at the set top box level .... there has to be as N3's format demands it. What else you can be certain of is that ALL the garbage you have been reading on N3 hacks up to now, has been just that, nonsense. But Tarnovsky's work is bankable and the clock is running as to how soon you will see the impact.
These are all just opinions, I have done nothing illegal...
"a lényeg a végén ez az ő véleménye"
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